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well my name is james clarkson

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and i would describe myself as a ufo

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researcher

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of over 30 years now formally

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if i was going to explain how i got into

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this i would say

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i've always had like two parallel paths

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in my life since i was very young i knew

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at an early age

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that i wanted to be a policeman and i

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managed to do that along the way i had

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a 20-year law enforcement career as a

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police officer

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for a city on the washington coast

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during that time i spent 10 years

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the last 10 years as a sergeant i wore

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many hats i've supervised a fatal

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accident team

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i was detective sergeant i was a field

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training officer

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trained new police officers i

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like to be involved in many different

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activities i also have been

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in the army i'm a veteran i was a

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plainclothes

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military policeman that's how i came

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from the san francisco bay area

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to the state of washington where i've

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lived ever since

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i've been a child abuse detective for

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two years and

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i ended up spending 10 years as a fraud

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investigator for a washington state

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agency

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until i got to retirement age a couple

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of years ago

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but many years ago when i was a teenager

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i was actually influenced by a

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particular radio program

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i was home alone my parents were gone

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for the weekend i remember the whole

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situation

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and a man named john g fuller had just

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come out with

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a then brand new book called incident at

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exeter about a series of remarkable ufo

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sightings

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in the vicinity of exeter new hampshire

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in the mid-60s

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and in particular there was a very vivid

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account

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of a police officer who was on duty one

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night who escorted

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a witness back to the scene where he

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claimed that he had seen a 50-foot disc

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with lights going around it and the disc

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came back

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while he was there with the witness and

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it startled him so much and it came so

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low to the ground

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that he ended up pushing the civilian

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down and he started to draw his gun

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and then the other officer who was

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arriving to back him up

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was jumping out of his car at the same

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time and screamed at him and said

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don't do it and fortunately he didn't

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and i was just fascinated by this and i

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was further fascinated because

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the air force said well actually you saw

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a strato tanker refueling at 50

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000 feet overhead and i thought now this

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is really interesting

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here we have a policeman we give him a

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gun

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and a badge we let him drive a car we

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let him respond to emergencies

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and his eyesight is so bad

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that he can't tell the difference

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between something that's coming down

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and an airplane flying across the sky at

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twenty or thirty thousand feet

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what's wrong with this picture and

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that's been my question

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all my life and i'm the kind of

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investigator

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i'm always looking for what doesn't fit

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i'm looking for the thing that doesn't

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match the pattern

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i want to know the deeper meaning i want

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to understand what's going

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on and so i feel that these things fit

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together really well

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and i cannot think of one subject

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that is more possibly significant and

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important

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to the human race than answering the

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question number one

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are we alone and number two if we're not

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have we been contacted are we being

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contacted

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has our entire existence on this world

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influenced by other more intelligent

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beings

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are we being manipulated now these are

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significant questions and i'm

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endlessly fascinated but you got to

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remember that i'm not

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doing this based upon my experience

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because i'm waiting for my own

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particular experience

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i would love to have one i'm frequently

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jealous of the people i get to interview

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because they have these extraordinary

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experiences

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and i'm still waiting but as a policeman

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i didn't have to see the crime to build

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a case

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and make an arrest i had to constantly

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in my mind be talking to a person who

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doesn't exist

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that person is the rational man

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this is a person you carry around with

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you and as you examine the evidence

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and the testimony and the credibility of

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your witnesses

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you ask yourself what would a rational

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if he was confronted with the evidence

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that i am confronted with right now

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what conclusion would you draw because

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what i'm all about is not so much

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convincing me i'm looking for evidence

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that will help

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other people better understand this

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phenomena

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that's what my presentation was all

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about i was trying

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to sum up 30 years of my

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interest in the field of ufo research

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and give

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other people a basic perspective that

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they could take with them

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to examine the phenomena on their own i

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very hard not to tell people

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what this is because i don't know i just

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know that it's real

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i know that it's a profound mystery and

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i know that our media

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for a variety of reasons does not

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properly represent it to the public at

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large and it's only

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at events like this the conference at

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eureka springs

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and a few other places where people have

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a chance to be exposed

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to what's really going on if i was going

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to pick

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one particular investigation there's no

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doubt in my mind the first

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thing that pops into my head is june

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and the reason is because of the

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situation it was meeting

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a woman who had a story to tell

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that i absolutely did not expect that

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she was going to reveal the things that

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this lady when i first met her in 1993

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was the classic stern elderly lady

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in the city of ocean shores the classic

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elderly woman that you didn't want to

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she had a reputation for being very

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stern very direct

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real blunt with people in fact she

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stood up to a a man who was definitely

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connected with the mob and went

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toe-to-toe with him

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because she didn't like his decision

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about in the community

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my friend june ended up single-handedly

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going and getting a lot of donations

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that led to them building a new library

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coast of washington state

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it was about 25 miles from where i

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but i met june because part of what i do

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is public outreach i give lectures in

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libraries and any

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any organization where they want a

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speaker on the subject of ufos i feel

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it's part of what i do i want people to

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know so i try to give them

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this basic information well after this

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one particular talk this elderly lady

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and she says you're right the government

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knows all about ufos and they're not

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telling the truth and i could tell by

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that this was a very serious person and

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i said how do you know

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and she said i worked there and i said

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will you tell me more

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and she said i can't they'll come and

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arrest me

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and i think she was a little bit afraid

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of me because at the time i was giving

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this lecture

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i was the detective sergeant for the

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aberdeen police department

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and i didn't keep that a secret and i

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think she thought i would arrest her

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but i gave her a business card and i

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said if you ever change your mind you

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want to talk to me

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please call me it took four

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years for that to happen

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that's a big year for ufos huge year

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we have the phoenix lights on march 13th

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which is a incredibly important event

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in the history of ufos i mean you could

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go on and on about that

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then we have the 50th anniversary of the

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roswell crash

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coming up on the july 4th weekend and i

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that the secret keepers in the

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government knew that they were in

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trouble that year

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because as it turned out the way it was

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best described to me there were so many

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people who showed up in roswell in new

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mexico

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that they had to hire off-duty policemen

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from all over the state just to do

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traffic control

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because there were all these raving ufo

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people who were there to celebrate the

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meanwhile the air force decided that the

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best way to counter the whole thing was

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to publish a book

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called roswell case closed

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and they talked about weather balloons

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dummies and i actually

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later on parenthetically interviewed

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the man who was in charge of the dummy

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drop research

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he is now a retired air force veteran

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and he is very angry with the air force

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because they misused

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a program that he was very proud of in

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explain away the aliens that were

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involved in the roswell situation

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so that's kind of an interesting

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parathetic note but we've got to

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back up here roswell case closed comes

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out on the news

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because it's the air force because this

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is a hot topic

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cnn it just explodes across the media

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all the networks were carrying a story

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about roswell case closed

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june out in ocean shores sees it on her

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my phone rings it's june haven't heard

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from her in four years

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i pick up the phone she says it's a damn

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and i said good to hear from you june so

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telling me

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that's the same lie that we used to tell

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the public when i worked there

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worked where wright-patterson air force

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base

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i come to find out that she worked at

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wright-patterson air force base

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when she was a young woman between 1942

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and 1952

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she grew up in dayton ohio she told me

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about the night that pearl harbor

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happened

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they didn't even have a fence around

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right field until then

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and i mean she knew all the history

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i said how soon can i come to your house

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i started visiting her she was a night

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owl

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i would work patrol duty on afternoon

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shift

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get off at nine o'clock in the evening

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change into civvies

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drive to 20 or 30 miles to her house and

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we would sit up half tonight drinking

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coffee

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and swapping life stories and

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even if she had not told me a thing

314
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about ufos i would have been

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fascinated to hear her story

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a woman working in an all-male

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environment under

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high security she had a q-level security

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clearance

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in her office this is pre-internet no

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computers

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she was in charge of safes she had to

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log in and log out folders that were top

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secret

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he had to have the right security

326
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along the way she talked to scientists

327
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and engineers

328
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who were directly involved in ufos

329
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in other words they had been present in

330
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the southwest

331
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doing research on our early rocket

332
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program

333
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they came back with stories talking

334
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about how they felt they were under

335
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surveillance

336
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by ufos while they were there they went

337
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on from there

338
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they said they were they would no longer

339
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report them officially because every

340
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time they made a ufo report

341
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they got locked up for 24 hours and

342
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debriefed and after you've had to repeat

343
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the same story

344
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15 times and have people tell you you

345
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didn't no

346
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you didn't see what you know you saw you

347
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quit reporting them

348
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i mean that's easy but amongst

349
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themselves

350
00:13:26,389 --> 00:13:24,399
they still talked about ufos an officer

351
00:13:27,509 --> 00:13:26,399
came in one day who was clearly flirting

352
00:13:29,030 --> 00:13:27,519
with her

353
00:13:30,870 --> 00:13:29,040
pulled a piece of metal out of his

354
00:13:33,350 --> 00:13:30,880
pocket that weighed nothing

355
00:13:33,990 --> 00:13:33,360
that was indestructible and invited june

356
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to tear it

357
00:13:38,150 --> 00:13:36,480
up she couldn't do anything to it she

358
00:13:40,310 --> 00:13:38,160
couldn't cut it couldn't did it

359
00:13:42,949 --> 00:13:40,320
you wadded it up into a ball it returns

360
00:13:44,949 --> 00:13:42,959
to its original shape flows like water

361
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everybody in the ufo field knows what

362
00:13:48,230 --> 00:13:46,320
that is

363
00:13:49,990 --> 00:13:48,240
that's the holy grail that's the memory

364
00:13:51,670 --> 00:13:50,000
medal that's the medal that everybody

365
00:13:55,430 --> 00:13:51,680
wants and nobody quite knows

366
00:13:56,870 --> 00:13:55,440
how to get it but june actually handled

367
00:13:58,949 --> 00:13:56,880
a piece of it and when the

368
00:14:01,430 --> 00:13:58,959
officer after he was done showing it to

369
00:14:02,790 --> 00:14:01,440
her june says what is this

370
00:14:04,790 --> 00:14:02,800
and the guy says it's a piece of a

371
00:14:06,550 --> 00:14:04,800
spaceship

372
00:14:08,150 --> 00:14:06,560
and she says oh come on what is it

373
00:14:10,629 --> 00:14:08,160
really

374
00:14:12,629 --> 00:14:10,639
and the guy says it's a piece of a

375
00:14:14,629 --> 00:14:12,639
spaceship

376
00:14:15,990 --> 00:14:14,639
and about that time another officer

377
00:14:18,230 --> 00:14:16,000
walks through the room

378
00:14:20,550 --> 00:14:18,240
he grabs it sticks it in his pocket and

379
00:14:22,389 --> 00:14:20,560
pretends like they weren't talking

380
00:14:24,870 --> 00:14:22,399
well june's story goes on from there

381
00:14:28,389 --> 00:14:24,880
there's numerous details

382
00:14:29,189 --> 00:14:28,399
and the thing was what she had not told

383
00:14:35,590 --> 00:14:29,199
me

384
00:14:37,670 --> 00:14:35,600
in remission it apparently wasn't that

385
00:14:40,150 --> 00:14:37,680
much in remission

386
00:14:42,470 --> 00:14:40,160
but i remember when i first got to talk

387
00:14:44,949 --> 00:14:42,480
to her again in 1997 i said

388
00:14:46,389 --> 00:14:44,959
why are you willing to talk to me now

389
00:14:48,150 --> 00:14:46,399
and you weren't willing to talk to me

390
00:14:51,269 --> 00:14:48,160
four years ago

391
00:14:53,509 --> 00:14:51,279
she says i'm 72 years old

392
00:14:54,870 --> 00:14:53,519
my cancer is in remission i've outlived

393
00:14:56,389 --> 00:14:54,880
two husbands

394
00:14:59,750 --> 00:14:56,399
what are they going to do shoot me or

395
00:15:01,829 --> 00:14:59,760
put me in prison i can do either one

396
00:15:03,030 --> 00:15:01,839
well i mean that's my kind of witness

397
00:15:04,150 --> 00:15:03,040
you know i mean that's she's like the

398
00:15:06,949 --> 00:15:04,160
dream witness

399
00:15:07,670 --> 00:15:06,959
but this is the case that i knew had the

400
00:15:10,470 --> 00:15:07,680
biggest

401
00:15:12,150 --> 00:15:10,480
potential implications of anything that

402
00:15:15,829 --> 00:15:12,160
i was ever involved in

403
00:15:18,230 --> 00:15:15,839
although the crazy part was that

404
00:15:19,350 --> 00:15:18,240
unfortunately sadly in the middle of

405
00:15:23,990 --> 00:15:19,360
1998

406
00:15:27,030 --> 00:15:24,000
she died and

407
00:15:29,829 --> 00:15:27,040
when i talked to her the last time and i

408
00:15:31,269 --> 00:15:29,839
knew this was our last conversation

409
00:15:33,110 --> 00:15:31,279
barry probably and i said what do you

410
00:15:35,990 --> 00:15:33,120
want me to do june and she just

411
00:15:37,350 --> 00:15:36,000
looked at me and said i want you to tell

412
00:15:39,110 --> 00:15:37,360
my story

413
00:15:40,629 --> 00:15:39,120
so i used that as a title of the book i

414
00:15:43,269 --> 00:15:40,639
mean it's a perfect title

415
00:15:44,550 --> 00:15:43,279
tell my story june crane the air force

416
00:15:46,150 --> 00:15:44,560
and ufos

417
00:15:47,590 --> 00:15:46,160
but i didn't even have any idea then i

418
00:15:49,189 --> 00:15:47,600
was going to write a book i didn't know

419
00:15:52,470 --> 00:15:49,199
i had all this information

420
00:15:55,430 --> 00:15:52,480
had no idea what to do with it until a

421
00:15:57,590 --> 00:15:55,440
couple years later it was 1999

422
00:15:59,509 --> 00:15:57,600
i was on duty one night and it was

423
00:16:00,870 --> 00:15:59,519
snowing i remember that i was down by

424
00:16:03,110 --> 00:16:00,880
the shayless river

425
00:16:04,790 --> 00:16:03,120
in aberdeen there was nothing going on

426
00:16:06,949 --> 00:16:04,800
in town nobody was moving

427
00:16:08,389 --> 00:16:06,959
i listened to the art bell show on the

428
00:16:10,310 --> 00:16:08,399
am radio

429
00:16:12,069 --> 00:16:10,320
bob wood and ryan wood were talking

430
00:16:14,389 --> 00:16:12,079
about the majestic documents

431
00:16:16,150 --> 00:16:14,399
and they had an 800 number and of course

432
00:16:17,829 --> 00:16:16,160
this is before those things were all

433
00:16:19,670 --> 00:16:17,839
free on the internet

434
00:16:21,829 --> 00:16:19,680
so nobody knew how to get the majestic

435
00:16:22,710 --> 00:16:21,839
documents i was excited when i heard all

436
00:16:24,790 --> 00:16:22,720
this stuff

437
00:16:26,870 --> 00:16:24,800
so i called this number the next day and

438
00:16:28,949 --> 00:16:26,880
i said

439
00:16:30,949 --> 00:16:28,959
i i would like to get a copies of those

440
00:16:32,949 --> 00:16:30,959
documents and oh by the way

441
00:16:34,790 --> 00:16:32,959
i'm a police sergeant up here in this

442
00:16:37,030 --> 00:16:34,800
town in the pacific northwest

443
00:16:38,710 --> 00:16:37,040
and i have this story from this woman

444
00:16:40,150 --> 00:16:38,720
who worked at wright-patterson air force

445
00:16:43,670 --> 00:16:40,160
base in dayton ohio

446
00:16:45,590 --> 00:16:43,680
between 1942 and 1952 and she's telling

447
00:16:47,110 --> 00:16:45,600
me about crashed ufos

448
00:16:49,350 --> 00:16:47,120
and she also handled a piece of the

449
00:16:50,870 --> 00:16:49,360
memory medal and i have all the personal

450
00:16:51,829 --> 00:16:50,880
papers from her that prove that she

451
00:16:53,990 --> 00:16:51,839
worked there

452
00:16:55,269 --> 00:16:54,000
boom next thing i know i get a phone

453
00:16:57,269 --> 00:16:55,279
call and

454
00:17:00,230 --> 00:16:57,279
they have it's a travel agent wanting me

455
00:17:02,389 --> 00:17:00,240
to come to this place in newport beach

456
00:17:04,230 --> 00:17:02,399
so i ended up they were very gracious

457
00:17:06,949 --> 00:17:04,240
and they invited my wife along too

458
00:17:09,110 --> 00:17:06,959
my wife has two master's degrees one in

459
00:17:10,789 --> 00:17:09,120
library science and the other in english

460
00:17:13,429 --> 00:17:10,799
so they brought her along as a research

461
00:17:15,350 --> 00:17:13,439
assistant very graciously

462
00:17:16,630 --> 00:17:15,360
and i went to this place and i walked in

463
00:17:17,510 --> 00:17:16,640
this room and i thought i'd died and

464
00:17:19,429 --> 00:17:17,520
gone to heaven

465
00:17:21,590 --> 00:17:19,439
here were all these people i had all

466
00:17:23,829 --> 00:17:21,600
their books on my shelf at home

467
00:17:25,029 --> 00:17:23,839
i got to meet linda moulton howe jim

468
00:17:27,669 --> 00:17:25,039
mars

469
00:17:29,430 --> 00:17:27,679
paul davids who wrote the screenplay for

470
00:17:31,270 --> 00:17:29,440
the movie roswell

471
00:17:33,350 --> 00:17:31,280
there were all these other people there

472
00:17:36,950 --> 00:17:33,360
that i i thought

473
00:17:40,390 --> 00:17:36,960
i'm in strange company now but that

474
00:17:43,510 --> 00:17:40,400
clearly is the one situation

475
00:17:45,110 --> 00:17:43,520
that one witness you never know when you

476
00:17:48,070 --> 00:17:45,120
meet a witness

477
00:17:50,390 --> 00:17:48,080
where it's going to go and that is

478
00:17:54,150 --> 00:17:50,400
certainly without a doubt

479
00:17:57,110 --> 00:17:54,160
the case that opened doors for me

480
00:17:57,830 --> 00:17:57,120
took me into new worlds gave me an

481
00:18:00,789 --> 00:17:57,840
insight

482
00:18:03,110 --> 00:18:00,799
into things that i never thought i would

483
00:18:06,150 --> 00:18:03,120
be involved in and so what i'm

484
00:18:07,350 --> 00:18:06,160
all about now is trying to pass that on

485
00:18:09,909 --> 00:18:07,360
to other people

486
00:18:12,070 --> 00:18:09,919
and get them to ask their own questions

487
00:18:15,110 --> 00:18:12,080
and do their research

488
00:18:17,110 --> 00:18:15,120
i would add that during the interviews

489
00:18:20,510 --> 00:18:17,120
that i did with june

490
00:18:22,549 --> 00:18:20,520
she told me that by the time she left in

491
00:18:25,830 --> 00:18:22,559
1952

492
00:18:30,150 --> 00:18:25,840
that there were people talking about

493
00:18:31,590 --> 00:18:30,160
not one but three ufo crash retrievals

494
00:18:33,750 --> 00:18:31,600
and she thought that there could have

495
00:18:37,029 --> 00:18:33,760
been more now

496
00:18:39,190 --> 00:18:37,039
she did not have access to everything

497
00:18:40,710 --> 00:18:39,200
and what she was working on although it

498
00:18:44,710 --> 00:18:40,720
was top secret

499
00:18:46,549 --> 00:18:44,720
was not directly ufo related except for

500
00:18:47,830 --> 00:18:46,559
she did tell me that she occasionally

501
00:18:51,029 --> 00:18:47,840
got tasked

502
00:18:53,510 --> 00:18:51,039
with writing letters back to people

503
00:18:54,549 --> 00:18:53,520
saying from an engineering standpoint

504
00:18:55,909 --> 00:18:54,559
the

505
00:18:58,070 --> 00:18:55,919
vehicle that you have described could

506
00:18:59,909 --> 00:18:58,080
not possibly fly the air force is

507
00:19:02,230 --> 00:18:59,919
declining to you know i mean it was

508
00:19:03,590 --> 00:19:02,240
boilerplate letters so in that extent

509
00:19:07,190 --> 00:19:03,600
she was involved

510
00:19:09,990 --> 00:19:07,200
in ufos there were a lot of

511
00:19:12,150 --> 00:19:10,000
you know things that she heard and this

512
00:19:13,669 --> 00:19:12,160
is one of those situations where i wish

513
00:19:15,669 --> 00:19:13,679
there was more

514
00:19:17,270 --> 00:19:15,679
but with june one of the things that i

515
00:19:19,029 --> 00:19:17,280
liked and respected

516
00:19:20,549 --> 00:19:19,039
was that if she didn't know she didn't

517
00:19:23,270 --> 00:19:20,559
know and if she didn't remember

518
00:19:25,029 --> 00:19:23,280
she would tell you that and it was very

519
00:19:26,950 --> 00:19:25,039
clear to me where to draw that line

520
00:19:29,350 --> 00:19:26,960
between things that i could firmly

521
00:19:31,270 --> 00:19:29,360
you know were definite firm memories and

522
00:19:33,830 --> 00:19:31,280
things that she wasn't quite sure of

523
00:19:36,150 --> 00:19:33,840
but that she had heard she told me for

524
00:19:39,350 --> 00:19:36,160
instance that the bodies were stored

525
00:19:41,350 --> 00:19:39,360
in the arrow med lab she also told me

526
00:19:44,870 --> 00:19:41,360
about the morning that

527
00:19:47,909 --> 00:19:44,880
a friend of hers who was a

528
00:19:51,270 --> 00:19:47,919
he was a master sergeant who was flying

529
00:19:52,870 --> 00:19:51,280
on military cargo planes she said she

530
00:19:54,150 --> 00:19:52,880
knew all these people in fact she gave

531
00:19:58,150 --> 00:19:54,160
me one of this

532
00:20:00,870 --> 00:19:58,160
old old polaroid photo that was fading

533
00:20:01,590 --> 00:20:00,880
of some of the pilots that she knew all

534
00:20:04,870 --> 00:20:01,600
in a group

535
00:20:07,350 --> 00:20:04,880
photo i still have that photo

536
00:20:09,350 --> 00:20:07,360
and one of them came in one morning and

537
00:20:12,549 --> 00:20:09,360
he was very upset

538
00:20:15,510 --> 00:20:12,559
and they were all having coffee together

539
00:20:16,789 --> 00:20:15,520
and everybody said well what's wrong and

540
00:20:19,510 --> 00:20:16,799
this man

541
00:20:19,990 --> 00:20:19,520
says his name was master sergeant

542
00:20:22,390 --> 00:20:20,000
clarence

543
00:20:24,390 --> 00:20:22,400
we never got his last name but i even

544
00:20:27,590 --> 00:20:24,400
have a picture of his wedding

545
00:20:30,950 --> 00:20:27,600
which june gave me which was on the base

546
00:20:33,990 --> 00:20:30,960
well master sergeant clarence says well

547
00:20:36,149 --> 00:20:34,000
there was a crash in new mexico

548
00:20:37,190 --> 00:20:36,159
and we brought back bodies and pieces of

549
00:20:39,750 --> 00:20:37,200
wreckage

550
00:20:41,590 --> 00:20:39,760
and this is one of those really strange

551
00:20:45,350 --> 00:20:41,600
conversations

552
00:20:48,070 --> 00:20:45,360
because everybody at the table assumed

553
00:20:50,070 --> 00:20:48,080
that he was talking about perhaps

554
00:20:52,710 --> 00:20:50,080
someone that they knew

555
00:20:54,950 --> 00:20:52,720
who had died in an in an accident

556
00:20:56,710 --> 00:20:54,960
involving a military aircraft

557
00:20:57,990 --> 00:20:56,720
and so they're they're having this

558
00:21:01,270 --> 00:20:58,000
conversation

559
00:21:04,549 --> 00:21:01,280
and he finally says you don't understand

560
00:21:06,390 --> 00:21:04,559
they're not human and

561
00:21:08,470 --> 00:21:06,400
he said they were like the size of

562
00:21:09,909 --> 00:21:08,480
children and they were kind of a blue

563
00:21:11,830 --> 00:21:09,919
gray color

564
00:21:13,590 --> 00:21:11,840
you know that was one of her remarkable

565
00:21:15,990 --> 00:21:13,600
revelations so

566
00:21:17,350 --> 00:21:16,000
you know there were a few anecdotes like

567
00:21:20,710 --> 00:21:17,360
that it's not

568
00:21:23,669 --> 00:21:20,720
this is why i've described june as a key

569
00:21:24,149 --> 00:21:23,679
corroborating witness to roswell she's

570
00:21:27,430 --> 00:21:24,159
not

571
00:21:30,230 --> 00:21:27,440
a direct witness but the beauty of her

572
00:21:31,270 --> 00:21:30,240
situation is that we can absolutely

573
00:21:33,190 --> 00:21:31,280
prove

574
00:21:34,710 --> 00:21:33,200
that she worked where she said she

575
00:21:37,590 --> 00:21:34,720
worked and we know

576
00:21:39,190 --> 00:21:37,600
that she worked on top secret material

577
00:21:41,029 --> 00:21:39,200
because for instance

578
00:21:44,230 --> 00:21:41,039
she talked to me about working on

579
00:21:47,909 --> 00:21:44,240
something called project caucasian

580
00:21:51,110 --> 00:21:47,919
at the time that she died in 1998

581
00:21:52,950 --> 00:21:51,120
i asked other ufo researchers what is

582
00:21:53,270 --> 00:21:52,960
project caucasian have you ever heard of

583
00:21:55,029 --> 00:21:53,280
it

584
00:21:56,470 --> 00:21:55,039
nobody had any idea what i was talking

585
00:21:58,430 --> 00:21:56,480
about

586
00:21:59,909 --> 00:21:58,440
two or three years later it got

587
00:22:03,510 --> 00:21:59,919
declassified

588
00:22:07,029 --> 00:22:03,520
project caucasian was a code name for

589
00:22:09,990 --> 00:22:07,039
the engineering effort to construct a

590
00:22:10,789 --> 00:22:10,000
parachute harness that would hold a

591
00:22:13,270 --> 00:22:10,799
hydrogen

592
00:22:14,870 --> 00:22:13,280
bomb when it was dropped out of the back

593
00:22:17,909 --> 00:22:14,880
end of a bomber

594
00:22:20,630 --> 00:22:17,919
needless to say that's top secret

595
00:22:23,190 --> 00:22:20,640
she even knew the name of the top

596
00:22:27,110 --> 00:22:23,200
engineer

597
00:22:29,350 --> 00:22:27,120
who was a project paperclip scientist

598
00:22:31,830 --> 00:22:29,360
who formerly worked for the germans who

599
00:22:35,110 --> 00:22:31,840
was brought to the united states

600
00:22:37,110 --> 00:22:35,120
after world war ii to head up these

601
00:22:39,990 --> 00:22:37,120
efforts it took a couple of years

602
00:22:41,990 --> 00:22:40,000
before i tracked his background down and

603
00:22:42,870 --> 00:22:42,000
proved that he was exactly who he said

604
00:22:47,029 --> 00:22:42,880
he was

605
00:22:49,909 --> 00:22:47,039
all of these details that june gave me

606
00:22:51,590 --> 00:22:49,919
turned out to be verifiable so she you

607
00:22:53,750 --> 00:22:51,600
know

608
00:22:56,390 --> 00:22:53,760
nothing no witness is ever as good as

609
00:22:58,230 --> 00:22:56,400
you might hope no one's perfect in fact

610
00:23:00,549 --> 00:22:58,240
as an investigator it would worry me if

611
00:23:03,669 --> 00:23:00,559
they were

612
00:23:04,789 --> 00:23:03,679
but she was an extraordinary person in

613
00:23:07,510 --> 00:23:04,799
the right place

614
00:23:08,310 --> 00:23:07,520
at the right time to be able to say the

615
00:23:11,909 --> 00:23:08,320
things

616
00:23:16,230 --> 00:23:11,919
that she was sure of i think a lot about

617
00:23:21,510 --> 00:23:16,240
where ufology is and where it's going

618
00:23:23,350 --> 00:23:21,520
i am worried i am worried because

619
00:23:25,510 --> 00:23:23,360
there are some other trends that

620
00:23:28,950 --> 00:23:25,520
influence it

621
00:23:32,549 --> 00:23:28,960
people tend to only want what

622
00:23:33,669 --> 00:23:32,559
is sensational what's flashy what's

623
00:23:36,390 --> 00:23:33,679
gimmicky

624
00:23:38,950 --> 00:23:36,400
what looks good and a lot of people

625
00:23:40,870 --> 00:23:38,960
don't want to look beneath the surface

626
00:23:42,149 --> 00:23:40,880
they don't want to spend the time to

627
00:23:45,510 --> 00:23:42,159
read or

628
00:23:47,669 --> 00:23:45,520
do the research or assess credibility

629
00:23:48,710 --> 00:23:47,679
and there are organizations and there

630
00:23:51,750 --> 00:23:48,720
are people

631
00:23:52,710 --> 00:23:51,760
who will only give will only put out

632
00:23:58,230 --> 00:23:52,720
there

633
00:23:58,710 --> 00:23:58,240
much commercialism in ufology i don't

634
00:24:01,669 --> 00:23:58,720
know

635
00:24:03,669 --> 00:24:01,679
how else to say it i mean i like i like

636
00:24:06,710 --> 00:24:03,679
as well as anybody i like

637
00:24:08,870 --> 00:24:06,720
alien doodads and posters and

638
00:24:10,310 --> 00:24:08,880
and all of that kind of thing and that's

639
00:24:13,590 --> 00:24:10,320
fun

640
00:24:17,269 --> 00:24:13,600
convince

641
00:24:18,830 --> 00:24:17,279
other people that a film that depicts an

642
00:24:21,269 --> 00:24:18,840
object that was created with

643
00:24:24,390 --> 00:24:21,279
computer-generated imagery

644
00:24:25,190 --> 00:24:24,400
is the real thing too many people are

645
00:24:29,029 --> 00:24:25,200
willing to

646
00:24:31,990 --> 00:24:29,039
run with on facebook or some other

647
00:24:33,750 --> 00:24:32,000
application the first thing they see oh

648
00:24:36,230 --> 00:24:33,760
this is a ufo

649
00:24:38,470 --> 00:24:36,240
and we don't know who the photographer

650
00:24:40,549 --> 00:24:38,480
is we don't know when it was taken we

651
00:24:42,789 --> 00:24:40,559
don't know what device was used

652
00:24:45,029 --> 00:24:42,799
to capture the image those are all

653
00:24:47,029 --> 00:24:45,039
excellent investigative questions

654
00:24:49,669 --> 00:24:47,039
but frequently no one even addresses

655
00:24:51,350 --> 00:24:49,679
them so there are so many areas in

656
00:24:54,870 --> 00:24:51,360
ufology where

657
00:24:57,110 --> 00:24:54,880
it's a little too glib and glitzy

658
00:25:00,070 --> 00:24:57,120
and it's going a little too fast

659
00:25:02,310 --> 00:25:00,080
investigations take time

660
00:25:03,990 --> 00:25:02,320
they're not instant you and you have to

661
00:25:05,750 --> 00:25:04,000
do the work

662
00:25:07,110 --> 00:25:05,760
and a lot of people are not willing to

663
00:25:09,269 --> 00:25:07,120
do that so that's

664
00:25:10,549 --> 00:25:09,279
that's where i'm alarmed at the same

665
00:25:13,110 --> 00:25:10,559
time

666
00:25:15,909 --> 00:25:13,120
we've got some you know extremely

667
00:25:18,549 --> 00:25:15,919
dedicated researchers out there

668
00:25:19,990 --> 00:25:18,559
many of whom are right here at this

669
00:25:21,909 --> 00:25:20,000
conference

670
00:25:25,510 --> 00:25:21,919
you know that are doing extraordinary

671
00:25:28,710 --> 00:25:25,520
work the positive note in all this

672
00:25:31,750 --> 00:25:28,720
is that i'm beginning to get a sense

673
00:25:35,029 --> 00:25:31,760
that as researchers we're

674
00:25:38,230 --> 00:25:35,039
beginning to see that this solution

675
00:25:41,029 --> 00:25:38,240
may be much deeper than just

676
00:25:42,070 --> 00:25:41,039
seeing nuts and bolts spacecraft that

677
00:25:44,630 --> 00:25:42,080
have uh

678
00:25:46,470 --> 00:25:44,640
you know robots and aliens piloting them

679
00:25:49,110 --> 00:25:46,480
around the sky

680
00:25:50,390 --> 00:25:49,120
there may be a deeper almost spiritual

681
00:25:51,990 --> 00:25:50,400
truth behind this

682
00:25:53,669 --> 00:25:52,000
i hesitate to say that as an

683
00:25:55,909 --> 00:25:53,679
investigator because

684
00:25:57,029 --> 00:25:55,919
you know in some circles you can be

685
00:26:01,110 --> 00:25:57,039
pilloried for just

686
00:26:04,070 --> 00:26:01,120
suggesting that but i do think that

687
00:26:06,310 --> 00:26:04,080
one of the best things that will come

688
00:26:09,350 --> 00:26:06,320
out of ufo research

689
00:26:10,390 --> 00:26:09,360
is a deeper and truer connection to the

690
00:26:12,710 --> 00:26:10,400
universe

691
00:26:13,669 --> 00:26:12,720
and that's that's where i'm hopeful

692
00:26:17,350 --> 00:26:13,679
that's where

693
00:26:19,110 --> 00:26:17,360
i'm optimistic so i guess if i had to

694
00:26:22,149 --> 00:26:19,120
sum up ufology

695
00:26:23,990 --> 00:26:22,159
it really is like the opening lines of

696
00:26:27,190 --> 00:26:24,000
the tale of two cities by charles

697
00:26:29,510 --> 00:26:27,200
dickens it was the best of times it was

698
00:26:32,710 --> 00:26:29,520
the worst of times

699
00:26:33,510 --> 00:26:32,720
that's it in the last several years the

700
00:26:37,110 --> 00:26:33,520
best

701
00:26:40,470 --> 00:26:37,120
ufo investigation that i've had

702
00:26:42,710 --> 00:26:40,480
was on july 2nd of 2014

703
00:26:44,710 --> 00:26:42,720
over the city of vancouver washington

704
00:26:46,470 --> 00:26:44,720
now vancouver washington

705
00:26:47,750 --> 00:26:46,480
is directly across the river from

706
00:26:49,990 --> 00:26:47,760
portland oregon

707
00:26:51,510 --> 00:26:50,000
separated by the columbia river

708
00:26:53,830 --> 00:26:51,520
vancouver washington

709
00:26:55,510 --> 00:26:53,840
is in washington state when you cross

710
00:26:57,990 --> 00:26:55,520
the bridge you're in oregon

711
00:27:00,870 --> 00:26:58,000
so don't confuse this with vancouver

712
00:27:04,630 --> 00:27:00,880
british columbia

713
00:27:07,830 --> 00:27:04,640
a man was on duty this man

714
00:27:08,950 --> 00:27:07,840
works for one of the three letter

715
00:27:11,990 --> 00:27:08,960
agencies

716
00:27:14,789 --> 00:27:12,000
of the united states government this man

717
00:27:16,789 --> 00:27:14,799
was a law enforcement officer he has

718
00:27:19,590 --> 00:27:16,799
arrest powers he's armed

719
00:27:20,230 --> 00:27:19,600
he's highly trained he's in the prime of

720
00:27:23,750 --> 00:27:20,240
his life

721
00:27:25,750 --> 00:27:23,760
he's a family man i know who he is

722
00:27:26,789 --> 00:27:25,760
i've communicated with him numerous

723
00:27:30,070 --> 00:27:26,799
times

724
00:27:33,269 --> 00:27:30,080
and i've met him in person twice

725
00:27:36,470 --> 00:27:33,279
but back on july 2nd of 2014

726
00:27:39,430 --> 00:27:36,480
i never heard of him about six or seven

727
00:27:42,470 --> 00:27:39,440
days later my cell phone rings

728
00:27:43,590 --> 00:27:42,480
and this man is very reluctant on the

729
00:27:45,350 --> 00:27:43,600
phone

730
00:27:47,750 --> 00:27:45,360
he doesn't want to tell me who he is he

731
00:27:49,269 --> 00:27:47,760
doesn't want to tell me where he works

732
00:27:50,470 --> 00:27:49,279
but he said that something really

733
00:27:52,549 --> 00:27:50,480
strange happened

734
00:27:54,149 --> 00:27:52,559
and he needed to talk to somebody about

735
00:27:55,669 --> 00:27:54,159
it

736
00:27:57,430 --> 00:27:55,679
and the phrase that popped up

737
00:28:00,149 --> 00:27:57,440
immediately was he said

738
00:28:00,950 --> 00:28:00,159
he was desperately hoping that what he

739
00:28:04,470 --> 00:28:00,960
saw

740
00:28:07,510 --> 00:28:04,480
had a conventional explanation

741
00:28:11,269 --> 00:28:07,520
what he saw was a metallic

742
00:28:13,269 --> 00:28:11,279
disc shaped aircraft flying over the

743
00:28:15,990 --> 00:28:13,279
city of vancouver washington

744
00:28:18,070 --> 00:28:16,000
in broad daylight on a sunny day at

745
00:28:21,669 --> 00:28:18,080
about one o'clock in the afternoon

746
00:28:25,190 --> 00:28:21,679
on july 2nd 2014 he sees

747
00:28:27,750 --> 00:28:25,200
this object fly directly across the sky

748
00:28:29,350 --> 00:28:27,760
he can see that it tilts slightly he can

749
00:28:31,990 --> 00:28:29,360
see the gleam of metal

750
00:28:34,070 --> 00:28:32,000
he can see the shadow underneath it he's

751
00:28:38,470 --> 00:28:34,080
convinced that it's a three-dimensional

752
00:28:42,230 --> 00:28:38,480
physical tangible aircraft except

753
00:28:45,110 --> 00:28:42,240
it has no wings no propellers

754
00:28:46,470 --> 00:28:45,120
no jet engines nothing that would make

755
00:28:48,549 --> 00:28:46,480
it conventional

756
00:28:49,510 --> 00:28:48,559
he could not hear any noise from it but

757
00:28:55,269 --> 00:28:49,520
you could

758
00:28:59,350 --> 00:28:57,750
so he's telling me all of this and he

759
00:29:03,110 --> 00:28:59,360
says that when it gets two-thirds of the

760
00:29:08,789 --> 00:29:06,310
he's telling me he says i haven't told

761
00:29:12,950 --> 00:29:08,799
you the weird part

762
00:29:14,710 --> 00:29:12,960
i said what's the weird part obviously

763
00:29:16,230 --> 00:29:14,720
he said when it got two-thirds of the

764
00:29:18,310 --> 00:29:16,240
way across the sky

765
00:29:20,070 --> 00:29:18,320
it looked as if someone drew a line in

766
00:29:23,510 --> 00:29:20,080
the air

767
00:29:26,870 --> 00:29:23,520
and as the craft crossed the line

768
00:29:30,149 --> 00:29:26,880
it wasn't there anymore it was just

769
00:29:33,430 --> 00:29:30,159
gone he saw a ripple

770
00:29:34,870 --> 00:29:33,440
in space and then it was there was just

771
00:29:38,230 --> 00:29:34,880
nothing

772
00:29:40,230 --> 00:29:38,240
so he's looking at this and at i mean

773
00:29:41,909 --> 00:29:40,240
he's in shock

774
00:29:44,149 --> 00:29:41,919
because this isn't right it doesn't make

775
00:29:47,909 --> 00:29:44,159
any sense to him at all

776
00:29:50,950 --> 00:29:47,919
within 30 seconds here comes an f-15

777
00:29:53,029 --> 00:29:50,960
fighter plane on afterburners going in

778
00:29:55,350 --> 00:29:53,039
the same direction

779
00:29:57,110 --> 00:29:55,360
obviously from the portland air national

780
00:30:00,389 --> 00:29:57,120
guard which there's a small

781
00:30:02,070 --> 00:30:00,399
group of f-15 fighters on standby

782
00:30:05,110 --> 00:30:02,080
all the time at the portland

783
00:30:07,350 --> 00:30:05,120
international airport

784
00:30:08,389 --> 00:30:07,360
so i get all this information from him

785
00:30:11,029 --> 00:30:08,399
we agreed that

786
00:30:12,870 --> 00:30:11,039
i will not reveal his name i have not

787
00:30:15,909 --> 00:30:12,880
revealed his name even to mufon

788
00:30:20,870 --> 00:30:18,950
so we determined that he

789
00:30:22,070 --> 00:30:20,880
should write me a complete statement he

790
00:30:23,750 --> 00:30:22,080
does

791
00:30:25,110 --> 00:30:23,760
because of this man's training and

792
00:30:27,029 --> 00:30:25,120
experience

793
00:30:28,950 --> 00:30:27,039
i get a report that's like the best

794
00:30:30,549 --> 00:30:28,960
report i've ever received i mean

795
00:30:32,070 --> 00:30:30,559
this man knows how to write an

796
00:30:35,830 --> 00:30:32,080
investigative report

797
00:30:38,230 --> 00:30:35,840
so that part of my job was really easy

798
00:30:40,230 --> 00:30:38,240
because the report was so recent

799
00:30:42,950 --> 00:30:40,240
i called my good friend william puckett

800
00:30:46,230 --> 00:30:42,960
who runs ufos northwest

801
00:30:48,389 --> 00:30:46,240
who is a retired noah weatherman he has

802
00:30:50,310 --> 00:30:48,399
like 30 years on the job

803
00:30:52,230 --> 00:30:50,320
and he has forgotten more about radar

804
00:30:54,950 --> 00:30:52,240
than most people will ever learn

805
00:30:56,789 --> 00:30:54,960
and i asked him to write a freedom of

806
00:30:59,830 --> 00:30:56,799
information act request

807
00:31:03,430 --> 00:30:59,840
to get the radar data from the faa

808
00:31:06,070 --> 00:31:03,440
he does he unpacks the data for me

809
00:31:06,789 --> 00:31:06,080
we examine the data and it's determined

810
00:31:09,909 --> 00:31:06,799
that

811
00:31:12,950 --> 00:31:09,919
in the area of the sky over

812
00:31:16,830 --> 00:31:12,960
port over vancouver washington

813
00:31:20,870 --> 00:31:16,840
in the same area where the individual

814
00:31:24,470 --> 00:31:20,880
observed the ufo disappear into the sky

815
00:31:27,350 --> 00:31:24,480
there are unidentified solid returns

816
00:31:28,870 --> 00:31:27,360
these are something blocked the radar

817
00:31:31,430 --> 00:31:28,880
for two passes

818
00:31:33,750 --> 00:31:31,440
of the radar that did not have a

819
00:31:36,789 --> 00:31:33,760
transponder associated with it

820
00:31:39,590 --> 00:31:36,799
in other words there was no identifier

821
00:31:41,509 --> 00:31:39,600
a normal airplane has a transponder

822
00:31:43,990 --> 00:31:41,519
that's called squawking

823
00:31:45,990 --> 00:31:44,000
where it's constantly broadcasting its

824
00:31:47,909 --> 00:31:46,000
serial number and its location

825
00:31:49,190 --> 00:31:47,919
and saying hey i'm a friendly don't

826
00:31:52,389 --> 00:31:49,200
shoot me down

827
00:31:54,310 --> 00:31:52,399
and only military aircraft are allowed

828
00:31:57,190 --> 00:31:54,320
to turn off their transponders

829
00:31:59,110 --> 00:31:57,200
and only under special circumstances and

830
00:32:01,909 --> 00:31:59,120
that does not include flying over

831
00:32:03,269 --> 00:32:01,919
a metropolitan area near a major

832
00:32:06,630 --> 00:32:03,279
international airport

833
00:32:09,909 --> 00:32:06,640
that would be a big no-no

834
00:32:11,110 --> 00:32:09,919
and so we have the unidentifieds and we

835
00:32:13,669 --> 00:32:11,120
clearly have

836
00:32:15,669 --> 00:32:13,679
the radar track of the f-15 going across

837
00:32:17,669 --> 00:32:15,679
the sky

838
00:32:19,669 --> 00:32:17,679
this is what you call a really really

839
00:32:22,070 --> 00:32:19,679
good ufo report

840
00:32:23,029 --> 00:32:22,080
i have a highly credible professional

841
00:32:25,269 --> 00:32:23,039
individual

842
00:32:27,590 --> 00:32:25,279
who makes a report of a broad daylight

843
00:32:30,149 --> 00:32:27,600
sighting of a solid ufo

844
00:32:30,870 --> 00:32:30,159
that has definite form and shape it

845
00:32:34,310 --> 00:32:30,880
performs

846
00:32:37,669 --> 00:32:34,320
in ways that apparently can't be

847
00:32:40,230 --> 00:32:37,679
duplicated by conventional aircraft

848
00:32:42,070 --> 00:32:40,240
it disappears in a way that no

849
00:32:45,909 --> 00:32:42,080
conventional aircraft can duplicate

850
00:32:47,350 --> 00:32:45,919
that i know of and it's being chased by

851
00:32:50,630 --> 00:32:47,360
the u.s government

852
00:32:51,430 --> 00:32:50,640
and my witness is risking his entire

853
00:32:53,990 --> 00:32:51,440
career

854
00:32:54,549 --> 00:32:54,000
to make this report he's not making any

855
00:32:57,909 --> 00:32:54,559
money

856
00:32:59,909 --> 00:32:57,919
he gains nothing by making this report

857
00:33:02,310 --> 00:32:59,919
it doesn't get any better than that

858
00:33:04,310 --> 00:33:02,320
unless i could bring you the ufo on a

859
00:33:07,590 --> 00:33:04,320
trailer

860
00:33:09,830 --> 00:33:07,600
this man is extraordinary i'm still in

861
00:33:12,230 --> 00:33:09,840
communication with him and in fact like

862
00:33:15,430 --> 00:33:12,240
many of my best witnesses

863
00:33:16,710 --> 00:33:15,440
we have ongoing correspondence where i

864
00:33:19,350 --> 00:33:16,720
am helping him

865
00:33:21,669 --> 00:33:19,360
read books and get more information on

866
00:33:23,190 --> 00:33:21,679
the subject of ufos

867
00:33:25,350 --> 00:33:23,200
i'm not going to be able to tell him

868
00:33:26,789 --> 00:33:25,360
exactly what ufo he saw i mean i can't

869
00:33:29,509 --> 00:33:26,799
tell him that it's a

870
00:33:30,950 --> 00:33:29,519
aldebaran star cruiser with a bad tail

871
00:33:34,470 --> 00:33:30,960
light and a faulty muffler

872
00:33:36,710 --> 00:33:34,480
that's not going to happen but i can

873
00:33:38,230 --> 00:33:36,720
show him that there are many other

874
00:33:42,310 --> 00:33:38,240
people like him

875
00:33:45,110 --> 00:33:42,320
pilots military people policemen

876
00:33:46,470 --> 00:33:45,120
normal citizens who are sane sober

877
00:33:49,269 --> 00:33:46,480
serious people

878
00:33:50,549 --> 00:33:49,279
who have all had similar experiences

879
00:33:53,590 --> 00:33:50,559
he's not alone

880
00:33:54,230 --> 00:33:53,600
there's nothing wrong with him what

881
00:33:56,149 --> 00:33:54,240
there is

882
00:33:58,950 --> 00:33:56,159
is something really extraordinary going

883
00:34:01,430 --> 00:33:58,960
on that is not being properly addressed

884
00:34:03,990 --> 00:34:01,440
by our government or by the media for a

885
00:34:07,750 --> 00:34:04,000
whole variety of reasons

886
00:34:11,510 --> 00:34:07,760
so that's my favorite ufo case

887
00:34:14,629 --> 00:34:11,520
trying to sum up how i feel about this

888
00:34:19,430 --> 00:34:17,430
it's the most necessary part is that

889
00:34:22,950 --> 00:34:19,440
whatever you do

890
00:34:25,030 --> 00:34:22,960
has to be done with integrity that's why

891
00:34:27,510 --> 00:34:25,040
i am very very careful

892
00:34:29,190 --> 00:34:27,520
where i draw the line between what i am

893
00:34:32,069 --> 00:34:29,200
reasonably certain of

894
00:34:32,550 --> 00:34:32,079
and where i am just speculating i think

895
00:34:34,950 --> 00:34:32,560
it is

896
00:34:36,069 --> 00:34:34,960
all important in this field for

897
00:34:39,190 --> 00:34:36,079
everybody

898
00:34:41,349 --> 00:34:39,200
the researchers and the public at large

899
00:34:43,430 --> 00:34:41,359
to know the difference between those two

900
00:34:45,109 --> 00:34:43,440
things so that we don't jump to

901
00:34:48,149 --> 00:34:45,119
conclusions

902
00:34:50,069 --> 00:34:48,159
at the same time i

903
00:34:51,589 --> 00:34:50,079
really believe that we have to approach

904
00:34:54,710 --> 00:34:51,599
this subject

905
00:34:57,829 --> 00:34:54,720
with an open heart

906
00:35:01,190 --> 00:34:57,839
and a sense of compassion fear

907
00:35:03,430 --> 00:35:01,200
will not solve this

908
00:35:06,470 --> 00:35:03,440
fear will only lead us into more

909
00:35:08,630 --> 00:35:06,480
confusion and down a much darker path

910
00:35:09,829 --> 00:35:08,640
i really think that we are going to

911
00:35:14,069 --> 00:35:09,839
reach a point

912
00:35:17,270 --> 00:35:14,079
and that's my hope in this entire effort

913
00:35:19,990 --> 00:35:17,280
is that there will come a day when we

914
00:35:22,069 --> 00:35:20,000
are no longer people of any particular

915
00:35:25,270 --> 00:35:22,079
race religion or nation

916
00:35:26,230 --> 00:35:25,280
we will be the terrans we are the people

917
00:35:29,109 --> 00:35:26,240
of earth

918
00:35:30,390 --> 00:35:29,119
the noisy ornery bunch of strange human

919
00:35:32,390 --> 00:35:30,400
being creatures

920
00:35:35,190 --> 00:35:32,400
that live on the third planet from the

921
00:35:35,750 --> 00:35:35,200
sun and my hope is is that that will be

922
00:35:43,829 --> 00:35:35,760
a

923
00:35:47,270 --> 00:35:43,839
when we will meet them openly

924
00:35:48,470 --> 00:35:47,280
friends not as enemies because yes there

925
00:35:51,190 --> 00:35:48,480
could there be

926
00:35:51,990 --> 00:35:51,200
aliens out there that will be hostile to

927
00:35:53,750 --> 00:35:52,000
us or

928
00:35:56,630 --> 00:35:53,760
completely indifferent of course there

929
00:35:58,950 --> 00:35:56,640
could be they may have already been here

930
00:36:00,550 --> 00:35:58,960
but at the same time there's a very

931
00:36:03,430 --> 00:36:00,560
strong possibility

932
00:36:05,430 --> 00:36:03,440
that this will be a surprising family

933
00:36:09,030 --> 00:36:05,440
reunion

934
00:36:11,829 --> 00:36:09,040
and i would add to that that

935
00:36:12,630 --> 00:36:11,839
in conclusion that if anyone wants to

936
00:36:15,670 --> 00:36:12,640
reach me

937
00:36:16,750 --> 00:36:15,680
they should do so through my email which

938
00:36:20,390 --> 00:36:16,760
is

939
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:20,400
uforeality at comcast.net

940
00:37:00,630 --> 00:36:26,810
or i have a website jamesclarksonufo.com